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Thief 4
« on: March 07, 2013, 09:22:15 AM »
So!  It looks like the next Thief game will simply be called Thief, it will be a reboot of the series, and it should come out sometime in 2014.  More detailed information will be available next month when it's covered in the April issue of Game Informer.

Read all about it here.  Screenshots here.

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 01:18:07 PM »
Garrett *IS* their main protagonist? Well, that will surely be interesting to see how they can fit that within the scope of the existing story... Because one certainly can't take Garrett and just ignore the other three games.

Dangerous path to walk. One wrong step and... For example, there is the fact that he is now the sole existing Keeper, the remaining of the order having lost their ability to decipher prophecies. So somewhere, Garrett is not just a thief anymore, he even have a pupil (featured in this new game?).

Curiously I was under the impression that Thief 4 main character was going to be entirely new, maybe with a relationship to Garrett but not Garrett. It's true though that this is the first news we have of the title in several years. A lot of things have probably changed since the first descriptions.


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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 02:37:11 PM »
Because one certainly can't take Garrett and just ignore the other three games.

Actually, that's exactly what they're doing.  It's a reboot, like Casino Royale or Batman Begins.  The new game will exist in its own continuity, so it doesn't have to fit within the scope of the existing story.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me too much... although I was kind of hoping for a direct sequel where you play as the girl, with Garrett as your mentor, in a more modern version of The City that looks like The Crossing.
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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 09:15:05 AM »
I'm up for it!  :lol:

Here's another interesting video behind the dev team's thought processes.

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 05:57:53 PM »
So this is what they'd like Garrett to look like now.



Calling it now: The first mission involves robbing a Hot Topic. :ss-nono :madatwall:
"Choice one: we flank them using what military men called tactics, and what religious men call divine inspiration. Or, we charge at them head on screaming various obscenities, in what military men call bravery and religious men also call divine inspiration."

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 06:23:49 AM »
Garrett needs to get out more and get some sun -- looks like a ghoul!

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 10:19:22 AM »
So that's why the Eidos guys meant in their interviews by "Reinventing the IP"?

Joke aside, what's to reinvent? The fact that 13 years later people still play the original games and develop FMs for them is a testament to how well designed the gameplay mechanism and the universe were. Sure we all would like to see a bit more of open world and better graphics taking advantage of today hardware (minus the "goulish" Garrett, thanks) but that's not reinventing anything, that's just evolution.

I still think they should have scrapped Garrett (or rather put him as a background character, like a mentor for a new protagonist or maybe as the one telling the story) and come with a new story of their own, starting a new cycle with a new PC; that would have offered them the unique occasion to develop a Thief game, bringing new ideas on the table without any constraint and without upsetting people. Strange then that they chose the most difficult way.

As things are presented now it's completely confusing, I don't know if it's Garrett after the events of T1 to TDS or before, or a retelling of the events of T1 to TDS, messing with the story so it sounds possibly cooler (a reboot so to speak) or if it's a Garrett from a parallel universe where the original story never happened. Even the devs don't feel that sure about what they are saying in their own interviews. So far I heard more about how cool the new gameplay mechanics will be (when IMHO that with the story were the last things that needed to be redone). Sure one can always introduce new tools and the like; "rainbow arrows, to distract your enemies with class" or "control Garrett's super 32 new combo moves with 15 additional control keys (keys not needed if you play on Xbox)" or "Garrett finds his true love but then is loosing her" (that one's for the story side)...

Anyway I won't argue anymore until after the release of the game when the cries (either of joy or pain) will hit because right now after having seen the media available, I can't even imagine what the game will finally be aside from "it's some Thief game with Garrett in it and with allegedly pretty cool new game mechanics"
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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 05:00:44 PM »
Just like Spider-Man...just like Batman...Thief has been rebooted. But this time, Garrett's not just after mere gold...

"...*snorkkhh*...*fehhhh*...Iiiii haaaaad aaaa ssssimmmmple jhhob plannned toniiiiiight...brrrraaaaaAAAA AAIIIIIIINNNNNnnnnnssssssss.. ."

An interview with Kim Kardashian? Who wants to see that? I'd rather see an interview with the mortician's assistant who had to piece her head back together so they could have an open-casket funeral.

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2013, 04:32:16 PM »
Well, on the upside, we're being told that the new Thief can be completed without a single kill. Now, as to whether that supports a "ghost" playstyle, I'm not sure- but it's at least a fair reassurance that we're not going to be forced to slaughter our way through a mansion.

What I'd really like to see, though, is a bright shiny achievement for Perfect Ghosting through a level. The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Cawwa Doody mouthbreathers modern gaming crowd (be nice, Wolfie, be nice) over a "cheevo" they'd have to actually use strategy and brains to get would be delicious.
"Choice one: we flank them using what military men called tactics, and what religious men call divine inspiration. Or, we charge at them head on screaming various obscenities, in what military men call bravery and religious men also call divine inspiration."

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2013, 05:45:11 PM »
And I just really REALLY hope that the stealth mechanics won't have anything to do with DX:HR one.



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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 06:47:18 PM »
So... we have a teaser trailer? Sort of?
"Choice one: we flank them using what military men called tactics, and what religious men call divine inspiration. Or, we charge at them head on screaming various obscenities, in what military men call bravery and religious men also call divine inspiration."

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2013, 05:03:42 PM »
Whoa,a candle.

There is a large portion of me that has no confidence that it will (pun intended) hold a candle to dark engine thief.  I'm expecting a consoletarded mess.  I pray I'm wrong.

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2013, 06:55:01 AM »
The fact that the devs are saying you can get thru without killing anyone is a positive note. I like what they did w/DX Human Revolution, so I'm cautiously optimistic. I think the game will get unfair comparisons to Dishonored, simply by virtue of their similarity of gameplay, even though Dishonored cribbed heavily from Thief in the first place.

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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2013, 10:08:52 AM »
First official trailer just dropped.  And it seems to confirm that Stephen Russell won't be voicing Garrett.
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Re: Thief 4
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2013, 07:55:47 AM »
Every time I read an interview with the dev team (two, so far  ::)), they come across as arrogant knobs who think they know exactly what they're doing, drooling idiots incapable of understanding the original games' premise, or both. This concerns me, as the last bunch of pinheads -- Ion Storm Ninth Circle Of Hell, I believe they were called -- were smugly dismissive of the "camera with an arm attached" style of interface as seen in the first two games...and by dint of their damnable reengineering of that inoffensive mechanic, my time with TDS was lovingly marked by muscle spasms (mostly in the lower back), headaches, and pervasive nausea.

So I'm really looking forward to seeing what those -- to quote Tom Servo -- "lousy stinkin' Francophonic bacon-loving bastards"** do to a franchise that probably should've been left alone after Looking Glass cratered.
[** Yes, I'm just kidding. Unless they screw it up. And the odds are that they will screw it up.]

[Scrambling for some sort of positive note on which to continue this post and failing miserably. Ahhhhh, phooey. Duck farts.]

Anyway!

On Rock, Paper, Shotgun: Why Thief Russelled Up A Different Voice Actor.

However. Facetious polemics aside, I'm not as bothered by this news as I should be. It sounds as if the new guy is at least *close* to Russell's tone, which I can live with. Of course, they should have gotten Slyfoxx to do his voice in the first place, but what do I know, right?  :lol:
An interview with Kim Kardashian? Who wants to see that? I'd rather see an interview with the mortician's assistant who had to piece her head back together so they could have an open-casket funeral.